Rudo, let me start with you, you have Southern African heritage, what kinds of guys are you attracted to? JENNY BROCKIE: Now you're married to a white Australian man? JENNY BROCKIE: And you've never dated an African man? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, Linda, what about you, who do you date? JENNY BROCKIE: And what are you drawn to about African men? MIKE MIOCEVICH: I prefer to date black women, so from all around the world, you know, any kind of culture.
LINDA BENZ: I'd have to say I like the skin tone too, you know? JENNY BROCKIE: Would you look at other races or just black women? She just sings to, she was just like my genuine class and like everybody else is like Bill Cosby's really funny, but when I watched the TV show, Felicia Ashard really kind of stood out to me and yeah, the other one is Whoopi Goldberg.
He says race is just one element that people have on the list of things they're looking for in a prospective partner.
You know, there's obvious physical attraction of course. MIKE MIOCEVICH: It was in high school at a high school dance and basically the entire year was basically all mostly white people from like, you know, Perth, but there was one girl from South Africa who had come over, her family had come over so, yeah, went to the dance and, yeah, took her. MIKE MIOCEVICH: If I had any kind of reservations before I didn't have any after, so. Sophie Song, you're in South Korea visiting your Korean in-laws at the moment. SOPHIE SONG: I probably have always had more interest in darker haired, darker eyed people, and what I had found, you know, my experience of the Korean people I had met prior to meeting Han was that a lot of them, by their upbringing, are quite family oriented and that was something that very much appealed to me. SOPHIE SONG: We actually met at a pub, we both had gone with our respective friends and we were watching a football final and basically I met him briefly in the queue at the bar.
I do find, as your guest I just find that I click a lot easier with, like Rudo that I do with other kind of women and"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: She's married by the way? So"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: So you went to the dance with the one black girl in the school? He just approached me and said hello, he introduced himself and then actually we parted ways but a little bit later in the night there was a guy at the bar who was quite persistently talking to me that I was trying to find a way out of the conversation and really struggling and it happened that Han walked past and I saw him and recognised his face and I thought well, here goes nothing and I grabbed his hand and I said to the other guy: "Hey, this is my boyfriend", and even though Han had quite limited English skills, he picked up what was going on in the moment and he, you know, he acted the part and he rescued me. Han, when this happened in the bar you didn't speak English, did you, very much?
JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, so it shifted for you with exposure to people from other backgrounds? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, Jennifer Lundquist in Boston you've looked at racial preferences with dating.
We know the majority of people find their partners within their own racial grouping, why do some people like these people choose to date outside their race do you think?
JENNY BROCKIE: So when did this attraction start for you, how did it start? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, I want you to explain to me a little bit more about what it is about black women that you find so attractive, are there qualities that you see that you find, is it physical, is it cultural, what is it? He had quite limited English when we first met but actually he was able to convey his personality and sense of humour really clearly, despite his language limitation, and I came to feel that we had quite similar, I guess, I guess complementing personalities.
MIKE MIOCEVICH: Probably when I was quite young I used to read a lot of books about missionaries and stories of Africa and things like that and it just kind of got me interested. MIKE MIOCEVICH: It's kind of a mix of like the whole lot. But yeah, it's just a whole new, just a big mixing of the whole kind of thing. When did this attraction start do you think, I mean in terms of you actually dating someone? JENNY BROCKIE: Had you dated other Korean men before Han? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, so had it been a preference for a long time or did you have a preference, or didn't it matter?When Han Song first met Sophie in a pub, he thought she was gorgeous ... "I thought oh well, I'm Asian, probably she's not interested." He was wrong. Han had only dated Korean women in the past and thought dating a white woman was "a fantasy".Sophie found Asian men attractive but says it was shared values that was most important.But, but to be honest, most of the African men that I have met or got to know, I found them really interesting. MIKE MIOCEVICH: I have dated, I have dated, you know, white girls, mainly because in my area in Western Australia, you didn't really have that kind of option, especially around in my area around near the coast. Mainly, mainly for Felicia Ashard, Claire Huxtable. JENNY BROCKIE: Whoopi Goldberg as well, okay, so you saw Whoopi and you thought mmm?There's been be intellectual stimulation from them, the cultural differences. LINDA BENZ: Cultures, I like different cultures in different backgrounds and it just interests me. But now that things are changing, demographics are changing around Australia, it's really great to see, you know, that kind of thing happening and more. MIKE MIOCEVICH: In the movie Burglar, everybody, basically we were watching it over at a friend's place and everybody was like man this is the funniest film, you know, we thought it was absolutely fantastic but I thought that she was really attractive. SOPHIE SONG: I came to be attracted to him over time.Oh, okay let's go, something like that, so"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, I just wonder the extent, Sophie, to which the physical, the sexual attraction kept you going during that time when you didn't have any language, so I'm just interested in how big the physical attraction was for both of you?